‘I Just Don’t Trust Them’: Reasons for Distrust and Non-Disclosure in Demographic Questionnaires for Individuals in STEM
Abstract
:1. Introduction
1.1. Demographic Identity Data Collection in STEM
1.2. Relational Trust: Situation, Semiotics, Interaction Sequence, and Strategy
1.3. The Current Study and Research Questions
2. Materials and Methods
2.1. Participants
2.2. Probing Trust and Responding Patterns
2.3. Analysis
3. Results
3.1. Three Trust Themes Related to Situation
- P13:
- I don’t think that, generally speaking, that these bodies actually include people of these, you know, quote unquote “categories’ […] in the process of just deciding or like of defining what […] fair treatment even means for them, and defining what it means to be a part of that category. I think oftentimes it feels like you know, you get reduced to a label, especially in any point kind of quantitative analysis of this kind of data. And I think it just it completely misses the actual experience. It’s like these categories […] gesture at like broader trends and experience, but they themselves like do not contain, you know, like you can’t say that these things happen because of you know, like my queerness, or something, right? It’s like these things happen because of some aspect of it, and like we need to be like better about delving into what these things are. Otherwise, you just have a story that is very, very manipulable.
- I:
- so why do you think those questionnaires are used at all? If you think the information is not used, where do you think people have the -
- P17:
- like I said. I think it’s I think it’s just to make people feel better about themselves. I feel like the most that I’ve ever like really seen out of those types of questionnaires is maybe an increased diversity in advertising for positions or jobs or colleges and then like historically lacking demographic area regions so like if they’re lacking on minorities, they’ll try and increase advertising to minority stronghold centers across the US. But that […] that’s largely it. I feel like they don’t necessarily use it to increase admissions or decrease admissions or increase access into programs. They just do it to feel like they’re doing good, and that’s it.
- P27:
- they could be well intentioned, but it may just end up on a desk and go nowhere, and I’ve heard this from individuals directly I’ve seen it myself. Where the system is, it protects […] itself. And when you start talking about things that are a little too far beyond the norm, you will get pushed back because I think at the root of it is that a lot of these maybe well, meaning initiatives have to deal with funding sources and being able to continue to survive off of their constituents, and […] if you say stuff that aggravates their base you’re not going to be well received. So that means that I don’t trust these questionnaires, because there’s limits to what they can do, even if they wanted to.
- P8:
- Definitely depends on the place. if we’re talking universities or employers specifically, absolutely not. Like I’ve been around the university enough to know that they care because they are required to care. That it’s about the culture of like audit compliance more than it is any actual interest […] I’m in a department where, like the old chair of the department, like bragged […] to new students about how like I’d won this amazing fellowship right. And like that I was trans, and I was doing all this cool work, and like was using it to advertise like how cool and […] welcoming the department is. Meanwhile, like he gave me zero fucking help with that application. When I sent it to him, he actually said, ‘Okay, when It’s rejected, you should submit it to the NSF’. […] it’s like they’re willing to claim credit for successes. But I don’t think they give a shit about like the work.
- P16:
- So, I trust them not to use it to discriminate against me.
- I:
- Okay, how about against others?
- P16:
- Mostly trust.
- I:
- Okay, can you say more about that cause that seems like a slightly different answer.
- P16:
- I just, I think most of the people that are collecting that kind of information have good intentions and are trying to use it to see where they’re at, and if there are ways they can try to get a better mix of people together
- P26:
- Yeah, in general, I don’t worry that I’m being discriminated against for my characteristics. And I think, in general, that those questionnaires exist because they’re trying to push back on, or the government at least somewhat, is trying to push back on 400 or 2000. Whatever years of culture, of people liking people who look like them. So, yeah, I’ve never felt negative from that
- P38:
- Most of the time, and I say that because my agency [their workplace] is one that uses that data. So I know in general how it’s supposed to be used. Yes.
- I:
- So you said mostly so alright. What other instances when you don’t? And what’s causes that distrust? Is it the agency, like [the entity] who’s asking, or something about the questionnaire?
- P38:
- Yes, yeah. It depends on who’s asking?
- I:
- Okay. So who do you trust less?
- P38:
- Generally it will be companies that are trying to get me to buy something
- P39:
- Depends on the context, but in general no[…] I’m […] in the midst of applying for jobs at other universities and that particular part of interacting with a big bureaucracy has a lot more controls around it, because there’s HR laws […] and they get a lot of trouble for discriminating in that setting. But in many less structured settings, I think, for sure I don’t trust the organizations that I give my demographic details to maybe I’m just a cynical person, […] I think in many less structured settings that is less sort of regulatory oversight then [I’m] less inclined to divulge information about myself.
3.2. Three Trust Themes Related to Semiotics
- P18:
- … the goal of a company should not be what do our employees look like. you know, the goal of a university or a business should be to succeed. And that should be based on the skill of your employees. The effectiveness of your employees, and I also think that choosing certain people based on that ethnicity really takes out your own. It takes out human free will out of the decision making process altogether, because your pool is only available only open to like who’s naturally making the choices to apply to your organization in the first place […]. If you say we must have this number of this of you know black women or Asian homosexual men, or you know we can only have 10 Caucasians in our entire system. You know, but that limits like you’re only dependent, you know. You’re dependent on who’s applying to your job or who’s applying to that university, and if the kind of people you think should be on your staff are not naturally applying to be on your staff you can’t fill that position and no fault […] my kids’ elementary school has 2 male teachers out of like 60 teachers. Now is that because there bad at hiring men? Or is that because predominantly, women apply to be elementary school teachers, you know it doesn’t mean that they’re sexist.
- P5:
- […] i’ve been applying for jobs. I get really annoyed when I get to that section. The whole ‘do you have a disability?’. ‘have you served in that in the army?’ There’s 3 questions that they ask at the end of something, and I always wonder like if we’re creating equitable hiring processes. Are you hiring like for an engineering job are you hiring me based on the interviews and my technical skills which you’ll assess, or what I really a lot of times I don’t understand what role those like last 3 questions play. Am I at a disadvantage for not, you know, answering quote unquote “correctly” to […] those questions?
- P12:
- like it’s none of their business cause It’s not something I open […] with […]. Like Jewish is kind of like a personal thing to me, […] I’m not gonna walk up to a stranger, and be like ‘hey, I’m a Jew’, so like when it’s on a questionnaire, and I’m like, ‘why are you asking?’ then I, if I can say nothing, I say nothing
- P30:
- Anything where it’s not relevant for them to need to know that information. So if I’m signing up for like a new random account on a website, or maybe a social media, or you know, or just any, I think I’ve seen it even one time when I was signing up to receive like a gift card on a website, and I was like, why, you know what I mean, like this is completely like I mean, I know they want the info, you know, they want the data, but it is just didn’t seem relevant at all and automatically if I don’t feel like it’s relevant. then I don’t trust it.
- P11:
- because, like it’s just like every yeah, everybody is just so many combinations of things that if you pick one thing out it doesn’t necessarily mean that like there can be patterns between people with like one specific category in common but like picking that one thing out doesn’t necessarily mean that any experience is just because of that one thing. And you also might be missing a lot of yeah.
- P27:
- Understanding that I’m categorized in a larger group of you know, if I check off this box of ‘black’, it’s a larger group or African American which can include Africans who come here… So. Hmm. I am, I would say, I guess, protesting the box in in some sense, because it needs to change,
3.3. Three Trust Themes Related to Sequence
- P2:
- So like, for example, specifically with the disability thing that I said, It seems like actually they might work to your advantage, because you would be considered kind of a minority, like if you said that you have a condition. But I always think that if I say something they might use that against me, or yeah, discriminate against me, or be like this person is not fit for the job, and I think they wouldn’t even have to say why they can like find out. Another reason. So yeah, I think I can say that. … I don’t trust them.
- P19:
- I’m, not 100% sure about that. […] I’ve had instances for I do fill out the document. And it’s like I don’t check a box where I am not identified with a specific minority, that they’re trying to hire. Which you know they don’t really say it should count on the application, but in reality, it does sometimes cause when the, you know, for these examples about applying those jobs. it said nowhere on there that we’re looking for somebody from this conference it didn’t say we’re looking to hire somebody from this particular organization. It was simply ‘fill this out, send it in’. So you know, that was a little frustrating it’d be nice if they’re a little more transparent exactly what they’re hiring with I have no problem with them hiring from a Specific Group that’s just you know what they what they do but you know it’s for the most part I don’t think it affects me largely, but I can see how it affects a lot of other people. […] I don’t have any particular issue with trusting them to use it correctly, because they have their own motives for who they’re trying to hire what they’re trying to do.
- P23:
- […] I feel fine talking to you right now about this stuff, and I believe you that you’re gonna protect my information and not, you know I’ll be de-identified in things. But […] when they ask you on your like HR portals for your jobs in the hospitals and in the, you know, packets and all these different things, I don’t know truly how they’re using that information. I don’t think they’re publishing it necessarily, you know, but I also worked for a company that got […] like all of our social security numbers and things, and it was a major health system, and it was like 11,000 people, so I guess I also just have mistrust in general, especially because of stuff like that.
3.4. Three Trust Themes Related to Strategy
- P7:
- Yeah. …i’ll put ‘prefer not to say’ if that’s the option, because those are the only 3 options this man woman prefer not to say and so, like So it’s because the actual answer is just missing from It yeah
- P24:
- yeah, when it comes to the disability question, I definitely put ‘prefer not to say’.
- P36:
- Truly depends on the organization. If it’s a survey to understand, believe it’s experience of people. I often I trust them, if it’s to, deal with my data and my name. I have my doubts. And sometimes I’ve been happy to see non-binary listed, and then said that I did like I wasn’t comfortable, feeling that because it was for work related stuff so. Sometimes. Yeah, I’m not. I feel like people and organizations don’t explain enough what we’ll do with the gender and who is gonna see that information. Yeah. And I say gender because it’s the most often asked and most sensitive for me, and they’re like, Oh, give me your information. It’s confidential on someone. We’re not gonna sell the information. Okay, I’m gonna send the information.
4. Discussion
4.1. Situation
4.2. Semiotics
4.3. Sequence
4.4. Strategy
4.5. Limitations and Future Research
5. Conclusions
Author Contributions
Funding
Institutional Review Board Statement
Informed Consent Statement
Data Availability Statement
Acknowledgments
Conflicts of Interest
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Participant | Age | Gender Identity | Race | Ethnicity |
---|---|---|---|---|
P1 | 28 | Male | Part White, part Native-American, Half-Korean | A poor person |
P2 | 32 | woman | Middle Eastern (white in questionnaires) | Iranian |
P3 | 23 | woman | Asian | Chinese Indonesian |
P4 | 31 | male | White | Greek |
P5 | 23 | female | White | Hispanic |
P6 | 27 | female | White (cause that’s the only option) | Arab, Muslim |
P7 | 27 | genderfluid | White | American Southern |
P8 | 32 | non-binary | White | White, Ashkenazi Jewish |
P9 | 26 | male | South Asian/Indian | South Indian |
P10 | 25 | male | Asian | Indian |
P11 | 23 | female | East-Asian/Chinese | 2nd gen. immigrant from Hong-Kong |
P12 | 30 | woman | White | Jewish |
P13 | 27 | non-binary | White | Utah Mormon |
P14 | 48 | female | White | Army brat |
P15 | 47 | female | Caucasian | Protestant |
P16 | 47 | female | White | White, American, Texan |
P17 | 27 | male | Mexican | Mexican |
P18 | 44 | woman | White | Catholic Texan |
P19 | 26 | male | Caucasian White | Midwestern, German ancestry |
P20 | 39 | female | White, Caucasian | not Hispanic; background Italian, and Irish, and Scottish, and Czechoslovakian |
P21 | 37 | woman | Black | Afro-Caribbean |
P22 | 45 | female | Biracial- Asian and Caucasian | Korean-American |
P23 | 36 | woman | White | Irish American |
P25 | 52 | Male | Jewish | Jewish |
P26 | 37 | Man | White | White |
P27 | 35 | Man | African American descendent of chattel slaves | Hebrew Israelite |
P28 | 22 | woman | White | Italian American |
P29 | 37 | Female | Asian | Chinese |
P30 | 32 | woman | White | American |
P31 | 25 | Female | White | White |
P32 | 28 | Male | South Asian | Hindu |
P33 | 23 | Non-binary | Filipino | Filipino, American |
P34 | 25 | Female | Asian | Japanese |
P35 | 31 | Male | White | Christian |
P36 | 26 | Non-binary | White | White and European |
P37 | 36 | woman | White | European |
P38 | 46 | Female | White and Native American | none |
P39 | 32 | Male | White | Judeo-Christian, Anglo-Saxon |
P40 | 23 | I prefer to think of it as female | White | Probably like 50% Swedish |
4S Item | Description | Trust Themes | Example (with Participant #) |
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Situation | The interdependent decision structure and perceived tradeoffs of that interaction for all parties involved | T1: Bias from other institutions T2: Bias from the questionnaire T3: Positive trust stance | “I always think that if I say something [on disability] they might use that against me, or yeah, discriminate against me, or be like ‘this person is not fit for the job’” (P2) |
Semiotics | Signals, signs, and symbols that affect initial perceptions, trusting decisions, and interaction outcomes | T4: Not understanding how queried information is relevant T5: Missing relevant labels T6: Labels too coarse | “The goal of a company should not be what do our employers look like. […] the goal of a university or a business should be to succeed […] should be based on the skill of your employees.” (P18, example of T4) |
Sequence | Trust evolution across repeating interactions, multiple situations, and how interaction patterns shape trusting | T7: Believing data collection meant for virtue signaling T8: Experiencing bias related to demographic information (minoritized/hegemonic) T9: Concerns of data security | “I feel like they don’t necessarily use it to increase admissions or decrease admissions or increase access into programs. They just do it to feel like they’re doing good, and that’s it.” (P17, example of T7) |
Strategy | How people, institutions, and other agents navigate decision situations | T10: Response optional T11: Having ‘prefer not to say’ or ‘other’ options T12: Fear of disclosure leading to bias | “i’ll put ‘prefer not to say’ if that’s the option, because those are the only 3 options this man woman prefer not to say and so, like So it’s because the actual answer is just missing” (P7, example of T11) |
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Goldshtein M, Chiou EK, Roscoe RD. ‘I Just Don’t Trust Them’: Reasons for Distrust and Non-Disclosure in Demographic Questionnaires for Individuals in STEM. Societies. 2024; 14(7):105. https://doi.org/10.3390/soc14070105
Chicago/Turabian StyleGoldshtein, Maria, Erin K. Chiou, and Rod D. Roscoe. 2024. "‘I Just Don’t Trust Them’: Reasons for Distrust and Non-Disclosure in Demographic Questionnaires for Individuals in STEM" Societies 14, no. 7: 105. https://doi.org/10.3390/soc14070105
APA StyleGoldshtein, M., Chiou, E. K., & Roscoe, R. D. (2024). ‘I Just Don’t Trust Them’: Reasons for Distrust and Non-Disclosure in Demographic Questionnaires for Individuals in STEM. Societies, 14(7), 105. https://doi.org/10.3390/soc14070105