We Are the Same, but Different: A Duoethnography of People of Colour Who Are Care Leavers
Abstract
:They are Us. We are They.
1. Introduction
2. Ethnicity, Race and Care
Our life stories are at times painful and seemingly riddled with loss and grief. At other times they are filled with the wonders of family life and new friendships with cultural and geographical reconnection. They also reveal the damaging impact of racism, disappointments and frustration, and emotional distress.
3. Children in Care
4. Method
5. Findings: We Are the Same but Different
5.1. Multiple Identities, White, Asian, Muslim or Black?
JW: So, I’m a lad of African Caribbean heritage, white heritage, possibly Irish. I’m not sure. I was brought up in a white family and still see them as my family, for all of the tensions there. I still go home even though we are as different as the sun is to rain or something. That’s what I wanted to say, that’s me. With all the contradictions, insecurities and, indeed, benefits.
IK: … One of the important things about my identity; I was a Bradford boy. I was born and raised in the inner cities of Bradford. It has its own cultural way and things that … that space is always home even though actually it’s quite different to … the culture of that place is quite different to now, twenty years later, having not lived there for quite some time, but that’s where’s home. I am a Muslim; that’s central to my identity, but when I was growing up that was probably the furthest away. I wasn’t interested in it and, if anything, I was … militant against it, you know? I was kind of against the idea of religion, so yeah.
JW: See, I don’t think those people involved, Black social workers, whatever, really got it. The idea that you never really felt Black, whatever that is, nor white. That you did not belong to either community, you were nowhere They got you know Black communities, and indeed Asian, cos you know all that stuff, the cobbled on at the end, Black first whatever; all that stuff about race. And they’re good people and we had some good times. But I don’t think they got it, you know the African, Caribbean and Asian, who were in care or fostered or adopted and or in care, and we would meet in like youth centres in Toxteth, but I don’t think they really got it, does that make sense? And I wanted to belong to it. I was one of the early members of it, but I don’t think they got it, besides the race bit, besides the racism bit. Am I making sense?
IK: […] What about you? I’ve always thought the adoption experience, particularly long-term adoption into adulthood, that’s not something I know much about. I can imagine there’re still a lot of the same questions about identity, about who you are and about belonging. Firstly, does what I say resonate with your experience and your feelings or is it different?
JW: The irony is some people can see you from a mile off, they can see that you just, culturally … you come from somewhere else, and are threatened by it. I don’t know about you, but they’re threatened by it […] in their view, middle class boy, got all this … silver-tongued words.
JW: I remember hearing something about string theory […] about a space in between a space. There’re lots of dimensions. I remember thinking that’s … that’s how I feel.
IK: … Being a care leaver is as much a part of your identity as anything else; your race, your sexuality, your religion. Anything about you that you think is central to you. Being a care leaver is a central part of who you are. I suppose that’s the thing about these conversations, is that we’re talking about that part of our identity; the fact that we’re from ethnic minority communities and that’s the interesting part. It’s not intersectionality, but it almost is. That sense that different elements of ourselves, which are similar but equally different.
JW: … sometimes I felt different that I was adopted, you with me? Like extra special. But other times I felt outside. It just felt like it was always an issue; not being adopted, but being the only Black kid around, mixed race kid around. So, there were a lot of fights. I used to fight a lot. Not through necessity, but you just had to fight. Someone called you the N word
IK: The institutions and everything around you are white.
IK: I mean, they [friends in Bradford] are primarily Pakistani, and I’m Indian and there’s always been that difference. But I suppose in a sense, when I was growing up, my Indianness, there wasn’t that separation there, because I didn’t really have a strong, Indian, Gujerati foundational base. I didn’t necessarily see myself as that. I just saw myself as Asian.
IK: One of my younger sister’s school teachers really took a liking to her and as a family they kind of took us to places. We went camping and so we had this, these were all middle class, white people, very different to us, but we had these experiences, these middle-class experiences and surrounded by middle class people, but we came, very much, from this other world.
JW: I remember this lad in school. He was a fifth year and had appointed himself as the person who controlled the division and dispensing of food for our school dinner table. They used to have trays which weren’t big enough to feed you, and there was chocolate cake, and he said to me, little first year, you’ve got too much chocolate so you can’t have any of that. This was in my first year. Then, when I was 16, there was this fella … and we were supposedly friends since third year and hung out together, and used to go to his house in the fifth year, and it soon became apparent that his dad was a racist and I was not welcome there. The N was used all the time, all the time.
JW: I remember reading something, a common thing for Black people, African, Caribbean, mixed heritage, where they wandered into the Black community and somebody spoken to them and they’ve been petrified and run away, and this woman, I forget her name, she must be about my age, and she did a thing about transracial adoption on TV. Did a programme, written some stuff as well, and she said she’s never forgets the first time a Dread just spoke to her, yeah, and she thought ‘why on earth are you speaking to me for? Why would a man with dreadlocks want to speak with me?’ Same complexion, same whatever, and I could chime with that. I remember being in Bristol Bus Station, coming home from school, whatever, obviously played footy somewhere and this dark-skinned fella turned to me and, Jamaican guy, asked me whatever, obviously because I’m Black. But you got to ask me, and I was thinking what’s going on here? Completely not identifying.
JW: When I first tipped up in Liverpool 8, Toxteth in old money, but its Liverpool 8, I naively wanted to be … I was more worried about my identity, I threw myself in all of the social and political organisations, which was extremely naïve, because Scousers are parochial as it is, let alone the whole Blackness thing. And so, at first, I was embraced and then, a year later, it became more difficult being accepted as part of the community. I was criticised for being middle class, which I suppose. relatively, compared to other people. We came from a quite humble, working-class family. White, frankly, and that evokes a lot of loneliness.
IK: I get that completely, that sense that you’re…I mean we used to visit family, extended family when we were young, and I just felt completely out of place. These are people who are linked to my … and funnily enough I’m from Bradford originally, and I live in Blackburn now, and many of my extended family live in Blackburn. So, when we used to go on family trips we used to go to Blackburn and we used to go to meet people and I’ve always felt out of place, I’ve always felt different. Even though, we talked earlier, about the fact that I’ve got a beard, I look like the archetypal Muslim, an Asian man, so look like I fit in. But culturally there are a lot of cues that I miss. I’m not able to just be myself. I think there’s some of that; I don’t think I’m ever able to be myself. This is the odd thing, so like you were saying, I feel very comfortable in white company, not that I was, very differently from you, I wasn’t brought up in a white community or a white household, but we had, when I was in the children’s home, we had mainly white workers who worked with us and social workers, and I always felt comfortable at school, with the teachers and they were mainly white as well. So, I was more comfortable, but not completely because I am different and I think that retains to this day. And that sense that I don’t know where I belong, sometimes.
IK: It [living in a children’s home] was only for, I remember it being six months, maybe longer, I remember it being around six months…We were the only kids of colour in the home, but there was a group of us and the rest were white kids, and completely culturally different. So, straight away, we were trying to, we were almost balancing that and we were, as a family, and, I wonder about this, as a family we were I think at a stage where collectively we were rejecting our culture and therefore we wanted to be more like them, to kind of, not to fit in, but also to reject the fact that we’d come from such a terrible background. Our culture, our perception of our culture or our relationship with our culture was traumatic, really. We could associate some of the things with cultural ideas and cultural concepts in the same way now as when people talk about Pakistani men and grooming of white girls and that’s almost a cultural thing, perceived as and reported as, which is a big debate. But it’s in that space where I think we were purposely rejecting our cultural experience, our cultural identity to try and be more …
5.2. Uncomfortable Relationships with the Truth: Am I Pretending?
JW: … When I did the adoption project, the Black families project down in Brixton, it evoked, uncovered, you know, stirred a lot of flames, ash, coal in me, because for years, publicly, here, friends may have known but I kind of kept it quiet other than with my wife, that I was adopted… And one of the things that came up, because it’s almost denial in lots of ways, for me. Without a doubt, it’s denial. One of the things it threw up, when I did the thing, because it’s actually paradoxical; The project was in Lambeth and on my passport, you know you look at something and think, who is this person; a picture of me and my birth place was Lambeth. And that’s weird, does that make sense.
IK: … so I went to have a chat with this councillor and he was really interested to have a ... you know ‘this was my experience in care’ and there were young people that attended the Corporate Parenting Board alongside professionals and councillors and he thought it would be interesting to have a ’this is my experience in care’. The first time I really spoke about being in care in any kind of public forum or even directly to somebody was in front of, like, 40 people. And it was only when I started, I realised this is a pretty bad decision. It was almost trying to share … You know still, even to this day, 20 years later, it has an emotional impact and I have an emotional response to thinking about and talking about growing up in care, and the reasons why and the family situation …
IK: … one of the big things was making sure I’m not vulnerable. Really being careful of who I’m vulnerable with and my talking about and acknowledging my being in care … it does make you vulnerable, unless you can talk about it confidently and you can articulate what that experience was and you can, if someone was to say something offensive, or belittling and you can deal with that. Maybe there’s an age thing, in that it’s harder when you’re younger, maybe easier when you’re older.
JW: Sort of early mid 90s I started to keep it secret [adoption]. Now why that is, I don’t know. Now why, why did you keep it?
IK: […] So I remember when I was about 13, maybe 14, I was moved to a different foster home, near where many of my schoolmates lived and, suddenly, I started showing up at the bus stop, to get the same bus as them to school and they were kind of “oh, what are you doing here?” “Oh, I’ve moved local over here”, you know. “Where?” And I’d tell them where the house was and they’d say, “oh there? Oh, there was a nice couple who used to live there and they used to foster.” And then suddenly they kind of got what was going on. So, it became obvious. So, there were points in the journey; or when my social worker, he was 6ft tall, Black guy, big dreadlocks and everything. He was an amazing guy, really good social worker, and he dropped me off in his BMW. And he very purposely said I’m going to drive you into the school in a BMW, so that kids see you getting out of a BMW, kind of thing. But they knew that there were these other people in my life who were not the same as what they had. So, there was … I knew that people knew and I knew that there was an awareness of it. Not everyone, but some people, but I think there were two things. One was this idea of the emotion behind it, I never unpacked it, never been to therapy or something like that, so therefore because of that the talking about it, there was a lot of vulnerability about talking about my experiences in care and why I was in care. And then, as you said, as you become more professional and get into the world of work and this might be one of the things that’s on my mind; that as, particularly as a minority, particularly as someone from inner city Bradford who straight away would be seen as, you know, there would be some pre judgement you know, prejudice, in terms of who I was and what I could do. To add the label of care leaver on to that, or child in care, that seems like it might be another thing to have to prove people wrong about.
IK: I do wonder how much of my life is keeping a mask on, and this is not only just with work colleagues or in those environments but at home … How much of it is just putting a mask on to try to fit within a space.
IK: It’s funny when I’m at the mosque and I’m surrounded by the Muslim community and they’ll look at me and they’ll assume. They’ll look at me and assume I’m Indian or Pakistani heritage. They’ll assume that I speak one of the languages; Urdu, Gujarati … I don’t. so as soon as that comes up, it requires an explanation and then I have to be careful. What do I say? Is this the space for me to be vulnerable and say, this is why …? There’s always that, little hidden things like that, that will come about where you’re not quite … and the assumption will be that I went to madrasah from 5 years of age. I probably learned most of the Quran and went through that whole Islamic education; I didn’t. I had none of that, or very little of that. So, therefore, there’s an immediate difference, which then requires explanation, and what do I say.
JW: And is that difference mediated, manifested through hostility, suspicion or curiosity; how?
IK: Interesting. Sometimes, yes, quite often yes, particularly around the language, and also around the fact that I have a beard so I look like someone who should know the Quran very well and therefore am I pretending, you know, am I pretending to be faithful?
JW: Yeah, yeah. Imposter.
IK: So, I choose what I say and I give as much of the story as I feel is necessary or decide not to. It’s just one of those things… second generation (laugh); go with that narrative instead. And they’re the spaces in between, that bit of you that you’re hiding, or that you’re not really, wholly there and with the dimensions. I think that’s such a great metaphor…And I’m sure we’ll talk about this in time about what we share with our children and what we don’t. And how we want them to understand ‘the stuff’, to empathise with ‘the stuff’, but we don’t want them to experience ‘the stuff’. You’re negotiating at all spaces, at all times and I’m not sure how much of that is just the human experience, the human condition, and how much is about being particularly from a care background and being different, racially, culturally etc, from people around you.
5.3. Family Trauma and Moving on
IK: I think it was worse for the generations previous to us. I was probably of the generation where things were getting a lot better. Not perfect by any means, but better. But very brutalising. It’s that sense of not belonging anywhere, of being moved rather than moving. It’s always the being moved, the whole power of that situation, which one can’t escape, and that’s not to say that’s not necessary, because clearly it is and was.
IK: I used to work around drug and alcohol services and one of the things I used to have conversations with people about was this idea of recovery … We know that people who have had addiction or had criminal records or a bunch of other things going on in their lives, and when they go for jobs that’s held against them. And I said earlier about narratives and I think it was probably this point that I realised that I had to talk about my care experience differently, because when I talked to them about their experiences, we talked about how they talked about that in interviews and potential employers. They used to talk about it apologetically, from a point of inadequacy, and I said what if we switched that, what if we said it in a way that ‘this was the world I came from, this is what I was involved in, and wow, look, I’ve been able to step away from that and get myself back on track. That has taken resilience. That has taken intelligence that has taken hard work. That has taken determination. That has taken all of those things to enable me to do that.’ They really enjoyed that thinking about themselves like that, so we started talking about deconstructing the narrative and reconstructing it in a more positive way and that got me thinking then around my narrative about being in care of being a fault and a problem, and as you said deterministically inadequate, to something that was ‘I was in care, and that’s something I should be proud of’. And having seen that part of life that so few children and people do see and having been able to then, you know, take life by the horns basically and get on with living and being able to have my own family and making sure they didn’t go through the same things, and not being limited by that factor, and talk about it in a celebratory way. There’s definitely an age thing. When I was young, I could only see it as a problem and I was inadequate.
IK: … I think one of the things about being in care is that I think I’m quite skilled at that, that I liken it to how you can tell the difference between a boxer who’s boxed since he was four years old and a boxer who started late in life. I was thinking recently about small boxers, like [Mike] Tyson or [Alexander] Povetkin. They know how to fight with the bigger guy, they’ve always fought with the bigger guy, so they know how to fight a bigger guy. They’re used to that scenario; they duck and weave. Similarly, because we’ve always had to deal with all those things in our lives, we’ve always been able to, kids in care, we’ve had that all along, therefore it’s something we’re quite skilled at. I think, myself, I’m able to process that, to find that time to just think through things, and either bury it, which is probably not the best thing, or deal with it in a more productive way. But whatever it takes to kind of move forward and carry on in the game.
5.4. Hostile Racism
JW: Honest to god, the racism at university, horrible, horrible, and he [friend] used to talk …, his Ma worked in sewing in the mill and I forget what his dad did, but they’d have excrement through the door, bricks through the window …
IK: I suppose there are generational differences. When I was growing up, I was catching the back end of the NF. I remember a white guy setting his dog loose to chase me and erm, chase me home and I was terrified, and I was probably only, this was when I was living with my mum, so I was definitely under eight, probably about five or six or something, and I remember this image, I didn’t realise then what it was or understand that this was clearly someone of that persuasion who was just doing it to terrify a kid because of his race. Compared to you guys, compared to that level of racism, because my brothers of a similar age to you and he tells me how hard it was growing up in Bradford in the 70s.
JW: I kid you not Ismail, from the moment I got there I had to be involved in, not as in fight to the death scraps, but showing my physical prowess all the time because I used to be quite wiry, because I was called names all the time. So there was a grassy dell, glen, and I was wrestling and fighting, Clevedon cubs, 6 or 7 a side. I kid you not, the monkey noises were so bad so this must have been 1974, it was so bad they had to stop the game. So, imagine the unenlightened scout leaders had to stop the game to tell the kids to stop and it must have got to me because we lost the match.
5.5. Loneliness and Belonging
IK: I think there’s parts of me that feel belonging at times. But there is always in most instances, whether its most relationships I have, whether its immediate family, to in terms of my personal relationships, professional relationships, even my spiritual relationships in terms of with people through my faith that I come across. I think there’s a sense of I know that they would never truly understand my experience and I can never really truly understand their experience as well. But there’s something of me that they can never really understand or appreciate, and I talk about it with them but I think to some extent no, to a large extent no, in a lot of cases, I do feel different in a lot of instances.
IK: Last time, we started talking about a sense of loneliness and connection, or lack of connection sometimes, erm, and that’s something I empathise with, something I very much recognise, and sometimes I wonder whether it’s from this sense that I would say, particularly in my youth, it was punctuated with losing people… And so that sense of losing people was a regular occurrence and it felt like the theme of my childhood and developmental years and so I wonder sometimes as well if you enforce that, encourage myself to be lonely to not have those relationships to go through the loss but I’m not sure. But also, I do know that there’s the point at which I need to retract myself from the living and just be alone and spend time on my own. I was listening to Kris Akabusi and he was saying something similar for someone who’s from a care background that although he’s this vibrant, seemingly extraverted character, he needs that time, he needs to, kind of, remove himself from those social situations at times and just go into himself. So, I don’t know if it is symptomatic of care leavers, it’s definitely something that clicked with me.
JW: And that is a loneliness really, because you’re not the same, they don’t see you, you/I as the same. So, we may feel we’re all buddies together, indeed sitting in a pub or whatever the social setting, we’re all together, but actually not, because you look profoundly different.
IK: I have thought about moving out to different foster homes and the children’s homes and thinking just being a different person to fit and then the environments like going to school, just being a different person to fit, to move forward and make the best of that situation. You almost feel the need to retract yourself from that and just not have to be anything really. Maybe that’s where that sense of loneliness, or sense of purposeful isolation comes from.
JW: I like the idea of a mask, I really do. Its multi-identities, isn’t it? And yet they’re all false, and you have all the social etiquette, enough cultural etiquette that you’ve learnt, skills one’s learned, that is considered but not natural. Yeah.
IK: Hugely, yeah, you’ve learned the rules of the game and apply them when you need to.
JW: … They talk about once you’ve been in care, or adopted, it’s a lifelong journey, because that’s what it is, isn’t it? It’s a lifelong journey. It frames everything you feel, sense, touch, experience. And you’re half-way through your journey, and I’m probably two thirds of the way through my journey, if that makes sense, and you think […] in terms of loneliness, met a lot of people, made a lot of noise, got a lot of ‘friends’, in inverted commas.
5.6. Same but Different
JW: There’s been stuff I’ve done around the criminal justice system. They’ve either been adopted or in care, or both, you with me, and have struggled with a difficult life. And you think, what, that’s me, you’re me. Sivanandan said something, I used it in an article because I was really struck by it. He was talking about refugees and asylum seekers and those coming from Syria and from, you know, the sub-continent, from Pakistan and Afghanistan. I then put it back to people in care, people in care or adopted. You are them and they are you. They are you; I am you; you are me. You know, just from my generation, 50 years ago people coming over, Windrush, and then 10–20 years later those from the sub-continent started to come, but the mosaic, or the spin of fate of being in foster care, or adopted, and then you see people incarcerated. I am them, you are me. You see what I’m saying. It brings a level of humility.
6. Discussion
6.1. Colour in Whiteness
6.2. Spaces Inside Spaces
6.3. We Are Them
Author Contributions
Funding
Conflicts of Interest
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1 | We are defining care as being separated from our birth families either permanently or for a significant period of time. Although it is acknowledged that adoptive placements are made with intention of permanence, this is often not the case for foster care. |
2 | Race is used as a point of analysis to explore the racialisation of difference through power and discriminatory treatment. It is not suggested that it is satisfactory but is a term that is used in everyday language and, as such, as Gunaratnam (2003) states, is ‘constantly under erasure’. |
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Karolia, I.; Wainwright, J. We Are the Same, but Different: A Duoethnography of People of Colour Who Are Care Leavers. Genealogy 2020, 4, 80. https://doi.org/10.3390/genealogy4030080
Karolia I, Wainwright J. We Are the Same, but Different: A Duoethnography of People of Colour Who Are Care Leavers. Genealogy. 2020; 4(3):80. https://doi.org/10.3390/genealogy4030080
Chicago/Turabian StyleKarolia, Ismail, and John Wainwright. 2020. "We Are the Same, but Different: A Duoethnography of People of Colour Who Are Care Leavers" Genealogy 4, no. 3: 80. https://doi.org/10.3390/genealogy4030080
APA StyleKarolia, I., & Wainwright, J. (2020). We Are the Same, but Different: A Duoethnography of People of Colour Who Are Care Leavers. Genealogy, 4(3), 80. https://doi.org/10.3390/genealogy4030080