Therapist Voices on a Youth Mental Health Pilot: Responsiveness to Diversity and Therapy Modality
Abstract
:1. Introduction
2. Methods
2.1. Piki Background and Main Outcomes
2.2. Therapist Training
2.3. Data for This Article
2.4. Surveys
2.5. Focus Group/Individual Interviews
2.6. Data Analysis
3. Results
3.1. Demographic Characteristics of Respondents
3.2. Perspectives on Therapy Delivery and Modality
I think the development of it was definitely driven by the people who were providing the money and not so much by the people who were going to be delivering the therapy and the first thing that comes to mind is the requirement to have CBT as CBT training,…. I understand that they want something that works but making sure that it’s more clinician driven than money driven.(SPO2_focus group—University provider)
…allow people to maybe specify their preferred mode of therapy rather than saying you’ve got to use CBT.(SPO2_focus group—Stepped Care Provider)
…therapist connection with client is the best predictor about positive client outcome and so in that case we’re better off as clinicians to use the frameworks that we’re most comfortable with cos we’ll get the best results within that framework, as long as we keep an eye on making a meaningful connection with that client. And so in that respect it might be that CBT only is kind of limiting some therapists to actually, to not do their best work so to speak.(SPO2_focus group—Stepped Care Provider)
In my opinion it would be useful to have had more time to set up the pilot with clear guidelines including treatment model fidelity.(Survey 2–23, female, NZE, counsellor, PHO)
…there was a lot of emphasis on numbers and throughput rather than adhering to a CBT, ACT, motivational interviewing model.(Survey 2–23, female, NZE, counsellor, PHO)
Overall, I would like to [see] changes to Piki that enable us as therapists to support clients in achieving positive and meaningful outcomes, rather than the current Piki model which predominantly emphasizes getting numbers through the door.(Survey 2–12, male, NZE, psychologist, University)
I guess I’d just like to see it sort of somehow more flexible and less flexible at the same time… I think that the boundaries are still a bit blurry and I think young people do like having kind of clear boundaries as much as therapists do.(Interview 03, female, NZE, mental health nurse, PHO)
Hold up the principles of the [CBT] training—e.g., plan treatment, regular sessions and review which often becomes overwhelmed by demand.(Survey 2–2, female, NZE, psychologist, Stepped Care Provider)
It needs to be re/structured in a way so that clients are able to be seen weekly/fortnightly (at least initially).(Survey 2–15, female, NZE, psychologist, PHO)
…apparent departure from the original therapy model agreed for Piki (e.g., clients being able to access weekly sessions with therapists that follow a CBT model—in particular that is based on an agreed treatment plan/goals and builds on this each week to increase skills and insight/understanding in a structured way.(Survey 2–21, female, NZE, psychologist, PHO)
Encouraged to see clients for 1–4 sessions maximum. Told clients often only need one. Told average from British Pilot [IAPT] was three sessions or so. No taking into account there may have been a lot of drop outs or other reasons.(Survey 2–23, female, NZE, counsellor, PHO)
The training that we get doesn’t match the service that we deliver at all and I’m actually not really using much CBT because of that.(Interview 03-female, NZE, nurse, PHO)
Since the launch of Piki, my clients who have achieved the best outcomes are the ones who I have worked with by going against the service model (i.e., booked in weekly for 12–20 sessions), whereas making any progress is difficult for clients who can only be seen once a month.(Survey 2–12, male, European, psychologist, University)
I see clients weekly or fortnightly, but this is only because I’ve blocked my diary off meaning no one else can book appointments in for me—this is not the norm. I also re-book clients myself directly at the end of each session, but I am aware I am unusual in this respect (I don’t believe this is done by the rest of the team).(Survey 2–15, female, NZE, psychologist, PHO)
Encouraged to do very brief interventions and as a therapist had to push back for ethical, and good practice standards.(Survey 2–23, female, NZE, counsellor, PHO)
I think when the young people engage for six to twelve sessions, they make quite good gains and that they can, they learn some things about themselves, about how they’re thinking, how their thinking impacts how they feel, how that might influence their decision making, their problem solving and their behavior.(Interview 108, female, NZE, social worker, PHO)
I found that those worksheets and things from the CBT, that that age group just love them, it’s like give me something to take away, give me something so I can see it and understand it and so I’ve just found them probably some of the most useful tools.(SP02 Focus group–PHO)
Yeah, clients have really enjoyed sort of formulating, seeing their formulation of their thoughts and behavior on things like whiteboards and stuff. So I have really liked that component of it all.(SP02 Focus group—University)
CBT is popularized and incredibly useful however do that without empathy, compassion and client front and center it becomes just empty words, choose the practitioners well this work is not possible or probable for all.(Survey 2–28, male, Pacific, counsellor, PHO)
3.3. Responding to Diversity
3.3.1. Need for Cultural Diversity
I think we need to employ more Māori and Pasifika people. We will need to also focus on needs of Asians.(Survey 1, male, NZE, social worker, PHO)
I would say that our Māori clients definitely gravitate towards Māori counsellors.(Interview 106—female, NZE, phone counsellor, Phone counselling service)
I definitely have people see me and kind of go, ‘Do you have any Māori colleagues?.(Interview 03, female, NZE, mental health nurse, PHO)
3.3.2. Concerns about the Fit of CBT for Diverse Groups
I think it’s great if you’re white Europeans. I don’t think it’s great for Māori and Pacific and other, so much.(Interview 87, female, NZE, team leader, PHO)
…a lot of it is to do with like talking therapies but not everyone wants to talk and that is like you see with the Pacific boys they don’t always want to talk.(Interview 43, female, Pacific, youth health nurse, Pacific Health Provider)
I felt like the structure just wasn’t flowing as well with the Pasifika and Māori clients… that model just didn’t fit with some of my clients coming through within Piki…I’d pull certain parts of CBT, but I couldn’t follow the structured model of the CBT with some of the clients, it just didn’t match.(Interview 73, female, NZE, counsellor, PHO)
[for] my ones that weren’t at University—were working, things like that—I found it was a bit harder for them to mould’… ‘those that were I guess had a lot of high needs in the context of life, ones that in general actually just needed to come in and just go ‘wah’, this is happening and life’s really, really… crap right now and has some valid reasons for it… I had kids like they had partners, relationship break ups, things like that…it was just like actually we need to deal with this crisis right now because this is impacting on everything else…like I’d pull certain parts of CBT but I couldn’t follow the structured model of the CBT with some of the clients.(Interview 73, female, NZE, counsellor, PHO)
3.3.3. Need for Cultural Training
Training in Pacific peoples’ ways of thinking and approaching therapy, Māori tikanga [customs and values] and protocols incorporated into service and specific models of therapy taught and practised with supervision.(Survey 1, female, NZE, counsellor, University)
The cultural trainings on offer are fantastic, however they should be made compulsory to ensure all staff are familiar with multicultural services.(Survey 1, male, European, Psychologist, PHO)
In our Universities through lots of our training, there isn’t too many Māori or Pasifika models taught as therapeutic models and we, certainly we incorporate elements of language and other cultural ideas from other cultures but I’m not sure that they’re as inclusive as they could be.(Interview 108, female, NZE, social worker, PHO)
With my undergrad being social work, Te Whare Tapa Whā [Māori health model] and Fonofale [Pacific health model] is kind of embedded within all of our practice, within all of our, everything we do is every year, every paper you’ve got to incorporate what you study, within that.(Interview 73, female, NZE, social worker, PHO)
3.3.4. Need for Cultural Supervision
More established pathways/relationships to seek cultural supervision and input.(Survey 1, female, NZE, psychologist, PHO)
Access to cultural advice/supervisory services for Piki clinicians on a regular/as needed basis.(Survey 1, female, NZE, psychologist, Stepped Care Provider)
[We need] cultural advisors that spend time across the teams, so they are visible, accessible, and modelling behavior’.(Survey 1, female, European, social worker, PHO)
3.3.5. Inclusion of Māori Models
…like [for] a lot of young people, I often explain the five part model [CBT model] to them on the whiteboard and they often, they go, “Oh right, that’s what I do,” and the lights sort of go on and I think there’s definitely some of that’s very useful but I also think that other models, whether it’s like a Māori model like Te Whare Tapa Whā or maybe, or Te Wheke… some other models could be equally useful.(Interview female, 108, NZE, social worker, PHO)
3.3.6. Responsiveness to Diversity in Service Delivery
I own that that I probably need to learn more… we’re not really very well set up for, even physically set up, I mean it’s a tiny cupboard of a room I’m in, set up for whānau meetings or… going out into the community to meet with people which might be more appropriate—so it does feel quite constrained… We might have to be a bit more flexible but just the mechanics behind… anything that I might want to do to mix up how I work with Māori clients—I have to work that out.(Interview 109—female, NZE, Psychologist, Stepped Care Provider)
I think some of the challenges I can see… we come up with this brevity, you’re looking at intergenerational trauma and really, really complex family histories and in the back of my mind I’m thinking—I’ve got twelve sessions and that even opening that box may not be the most appropriate thing.(Interview 109—female, NZE, Psychologist, Stepped Care Provider)
Currently, I believe Piki mainly increases access to counselling for those who already had little difficulty accessing counselling (e.g., white cisgender straight Pākehā [Europeans] who are predominantly middle class).(Survey 2–12, male, European, psychologist, University)
Services are kind of still siloed with a kind of white mainstream culture, like our service was doing some outreach at a couple of maraes [Māori meeting houses] based in the region. …but I don’t think it’s really targeted Māori and Pasifika like maybe it was hoping to.(Interview 108, female, NZE, social worker, PHO)
It’s a bit of a mission… the Māori organizations supporting whānau—they’re still struggling to get clients to come in to see me under the Piki program.(Interview 89–male, Other ethnicity, Occupational therapist, PHO)
3.3.7. Rainbow Responsiveness
I saw a large number of that sort of population within a University environment and I think Universities are probably quite good at including that population, in a community setting not so much.(Interview 108, female, NZE, social worker, PHO)
I think working within the University environment, that access is already pretty well served I think compared to the general population but I think Piki’s another avenue I think particularly for the Rainbow community.(Interview 02, female, NZE, AOD counsellor, PHO)
I have a client at the moment who’s transgender, I’ve had another young person who was wanting to transition. I think there is definitely being welcoming and accepting… I almost wonder if we need specific, different training.(Interview 108, female, NZE, social worker, PHO)
There’ve been other trainings around working with Rainbow through [organization], they’ve all been really high quality, so I think the training’s been good’.(Interview 109, female, NZE, psychologist, Stepped Care Provider)
4. Discussion
Strengths and Limitations
5. Conclusions
Author Contributions
Funding
Institutional Review Board Statement
Informed Consent Statement
Data Availability Statement
Acknowledgments
Conflicts of Interest
Abbreviations
IAPT | Increasing Access to Psychological Therapies (UK based CBT program) |
PHO | Primary Health Organization (Grouping of Primary Care practices) |
LGBTQIA+ | Lesbian, Gay, Bi-sexual, Transgender, Queer/questioning sexual identity, Intersex, Asexual+ |
CBT | Cognitive Behavior Therapy |
ACT | Acceptance and Commitment Therapy |
AOD | Alcohol and Other Drug |
NZE | New Zealand European |
Appendix A
Question | Response Option |
Email address | Free text |
Name | Free text |
Cultural identity or ethnicity | Free text |
Gender identity | Free text |
Job title | Free text |
Please select your profession | Free text |
How many years of experience do you have working in mental health or addictions? | Free text |
Cognitive Behavioral Therapy | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Motivational Interviewing | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Dialectical Behavior Therapy | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Family therapies (family systems, dynamic family therapy, etc.) | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Solution Focused Brief Therapy (SFBT) | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Mindfulness based therapies | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Brief Psychotherapy | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Problem Solving Therapy (PST) | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Supportive counselling | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Brief intervention | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Group therapy and skills training | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Cognitive Processing Therapy (CPT) and/or Trauma-Focused Cognitive Behavior Therapy (TF-CBT) | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Other talk therapies | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Mental health assessment (this covers screening for common conditions such as anxiety and depression) | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Alcohol and other drugs, gambling, and addictive behaviors | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Psychological conditions (this includes the use of formal psychological assessments such as the MMPI-II, PAI, WISC, and WAIS) | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Risk assessment | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Neuropsychological (this includes use of the RBANS, Stroop, and other neuropsychological assessments) | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Other assessments (please elaborate) | Expert/Beginner/Competent/No training |
Delivering talking therapy | Percentage of time spent on this |
Writing notes | Percentage of time spent on this |
Phone calls and text messages to patients | Percentage of time spent on this |
Phone calls and text messages to people other than patients (GP’s, parents, etc.) | Percentage of time spent on this |
Meetings other than with patients | Percentage of time spent on this |
What other functions take up your time during the week? | Percentage of time spent on this |
Inclusion of cultural practices (such as referral to cultural advisors or services, co-working with cultural services, cultural supervision). | Occasionally/Never/Sometimes/Always/Often |
Inclusion of a person’s preferences (for example, their spiritual values, choice of therapy or therapist). | Occasionally/Never/Sometimes/Always/Often |
Family or whānau member involvement (either directly in therapy or by consultation). | Occasionally/Never/Sometimes/Always/Often |
Identifying and addressing co-existing problems (such as addictions, mental health, physical health, long-term physical illness and disability). | Occasionally/Never/Sometimes/Always/Often |
Type of training required (please include details of actual training courses if relevant) | Free text |
Are there any talking therapies that you think could be made more available in your service and why? | Free text |
What type of talking therapy supervision do you receive (e.g., one-to-one or group) and how often do you receive it? | Individual supervision with another supervisor/Individual supervision approximately fortnightly with an Explore supervisor/Free Text |
What further supervision, if any, do you require? | Free text |
Do you provide supervision of talking therapies to other practitioners? | Yes/No |
Do you assess the progress that a person makes in talking therapy? | Yes/No |
Do you assess the effectiveness of the therapy you deliver? | Yes/No |
Do you routinely use progress and outcome measures within your talking therapy practice? | Yes/No |
Do you think current delivery of talking therapies is meeting demand? | Yes/No |
Please briefly describe reasons for your answer to the previous question. | Free text |
What do you think are the main strengths of the current delivery of talking therapies? | Free text |
What do you think are the main areas for development? | Free text |
What development is required to meet the needs of cultural and ethnic groups? | Free text |
Do you have any further comments about current delivery of talking therapies within your service or practice? | Free text |
Approximately how long did it take you to complete this survey? | Less than 15 min/15–30 min |
What company or organization do you work for? | Free text |
Appendix B
Question | Response Option |
What is your role title in the Piki service | Mental health nurse, counsellor, psychologist, social worker, mental health practitioner |
Which ethnic group do you belong to | NZ European, Māori, Samoan, Cook Island Maori, Tongan, Niuean, Chinese, Indian, Other |
Please tell us your gender | Male, female, gender diverse |
Please tell us which age band you belong to | 20–29, 30–39, 40–49, 50+ |
Please tell us which organization you work for | PHO1, PHO2, PHO3, University 1, University 2, Stepped Care provider |
CBT Questions | |
What proportion of Piki clients are you using Beckian CBT with | None, some, about half, most, all. |
With what proportion of Piki clients are you doing in or out of session behavioral experiments to test specific predictions | None, some, about half, most, all. |
With what proportion of Piki clients are you setting homework or between session tasks | None, some, about half, most, all. |
With what proportion of Piki clients are you setting a specific agenda for the session | None, 5–25%, 26–50%, 51–75%, 76–100% |
About your work for Piki | |
What is your FTE per week on the Piki project | 0–0.2 FTE, 0.2–0.4 FTE, 0.4–0.6 FTE, 0.6–0.8 FTE, 0.8–1.0 FTE |
How many Piki clients do you see a week on average | 1–5, 6–10, 11–15, 16–20, 21–25, 26–30 |
Do you feel that you are able to see Piki clients for as many sessions as they need | Yes, No—please explain (free text), Not sure |
Are your Piki clients mostly mild/moderate | Only mild-moderate, mild to moderate with a small number of severe, More numbers of severe than I was expecting, More severe than mild to moderate |
What are clients saying about other parts of the Piki service: - Digital app - Peer Support | very satisfied, somewhat satisfied, neither satisfied or dissatisfied, somewhat dissatisfied, very dissatisfied |
Do you consider the administration workload required for Piki clients to be manageable | Smiley face slider scale, 5 levels |
Do you have control of bookings made in your diary? | Never, sometimes, about half the time, most of the time, always |
To what extent are you able to re-book clients at the frequency you believe they require | Never, sometimes, about half the time, most of the time, always. |
If you use Kaupapa Maori based models with Piki clients, please identify which main frameworks you use | Te Whare Tapa Wha; Te Wheke; Tikanga; Dynamic of Whanaungatanga; Poutama Powhiri; Tika, Pono, Aroha; Kahui Ao; Hua Oranga |
Are there any changes you would like to make to the Piki service delivery model to make it more effective for clients | Free text |
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Interviewees/Focus Group Attendees N = 13 November–December 2020 | Survey 1—PHO N = 27 Mid 2019 | Survey 2—Evaluation Team (ET) N = 37 January 2020 | |
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Gender | |||
Female | 10 | 19 | 10 |
Male | 3 | 8 | 27 |
Profession | |||
AOD Counsellor | 0 | 2 | 0 |
Counsellor | 1 | 6 | 9 |
Nurse/Mental Health Nurse | 4 | 5 | 6 |
Clinical Psychologist | 2 | 7 | 8 |
Occupational Therapist | 0 | 1 | 0 |
Social Worker | 4 | 6 | 8 |
Educational Psychologist | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Therapist | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Mental Health Practitioner | 0 | 0 | 6 |
Ethnicity | |||
NZ Māori | 0 | 1 | 3 |
Not answered | 0 | 1 | 0 |
European (including NZE) | 10 | 25 | 32 |
Asian | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Other | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Pacific | 1 | 0 | 2 |
Age | Not collected | Not collected | |
20–29 | 7 | ||
30–39 | 4 | ||
40–49 | 2 | ||
50+ | 4 | ||
Organization Type | |||
Primary Health Organization | 5 | 21 | 28 |
Māori Health Provider | 0 | 0 | 2 |
University | 3 | 4 | 3 |
Stepped Care Provider | 2 | 2 | 3 |
Phone Counselling Service | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Wellbeing App Service | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Not Stated | 0 | 0 | 1 |
Pacific Health Provider | 1 | 0 | 0 |
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Mathieson, F.; Garrett, S.; Stubbe, M.; Hilder, J.; Tester, R.; Fedchuk, D.; Dunlop, A.; Dowell, A. Therapist Voices on a Youth Mental Health Pilot: Responsiveness to Diversity and Therapy Modality. Int. J. Environ. Res. Public Health 2023, 20, 1834. https://doi.org/10.3390/ijerph20031834
Mathieson F, Garrett S, Stubbe M, Hilder J, Tester R, Fedchuk D, Dunlop A, Dowell A. Therapist Voices on a Youth Mental Health Pilot: Responsiveness to Diversity and Therapy Modality. International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health. 2023; 20(3):1834. https://doi.org/10.3390/ijerph20031834
Chicago/Turabian StyleMathieson, Fiona, Sue Garrett, Maria Stubbe, Jo Hilder, Rachel Tester, Dasha Fedchuk, Abby Dunlop, and Anthony Dowell. 2023. "Therapist Voices on a Youth Mental Health Pilot: Responsiveness to Diversity and Therapy Modality" International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health 20, no. 3: 1834. https://doi.org/10.3390/ijerph20031834
APA StyleMathieson, F., Garrett, S., Stubbe, M., Hilder, J., Tester, R., Fedchuk, D., Dunlop, A., & Dowell, A. (2023). Therapist Voices on a Youth Mental Health Pilot: Responsiveness to Diversity and Therapy Modality. International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health, 20(3), 1834. https://doi.org/10.3390/ijerph20031834