Instant Gratification and Overtreating to Be Safe: Perceptions of U.S. Intensive Care Unit Pharmacists and Residents on Antimicrobial Stewardship
Abstract
:1. Introduction
2. Materials and Methods
2.1. Study Location and Participants
2.2. Methodology
2.3. Sampling Procedure
2.4. Ethical Approvals
2.5. Analysis
3. Results
3.1. Limited Autonomy
3.2. Overtreatment and Instant Gratification
4. Discussion
Author Contributions
Funding
Institutional Review Board Statement
Informed Consent Statement
Data Availability Statement
Acknowledgments
Conflicts of Interest
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Exemplar Quotes |
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If we’re changing it [antibiotics], then...the orders would be putting it in at that time based on what the discussion is with the attending...realistically, just whatever the attending says. (Resident 1) |
Usually I’m the one providing that [antibiotic information] to the surgeon, saying ‘the person was already on...whatever they were on...do you want to continue with these same antibiotics’...kind of surgeon preference. (Resident 1) |
Most of the time they [the ICU teams] are willing to consult ID, but sometimes...they just want to order something, and we’ll have to be the intermediary. (Pharmacist 2) |
The [ICU] teams are pretty receptive to me when I recommend...but sometimes you get people that are more receptive than others. (Pharmacist 4) |
The surgical ICU is open, so surgeons come in and do stuff with their residents and do not always tell us. It’s frustrating because they’re ultimately responsible for the patient care while they’re in the unit...it can be a point of contention. (Pharmacist 2) |
I’d probably ask an attending who knows more about antibiotics than I do...if nobody has any answers [to antibiotic questions] or if it’s a tricky situation, we consult ID. (Resident 5) |
We’re in a unique position because we round with the team and we’re there for the discussion…and I know how to reach the stewardship pharmacist and escalate the situation so that it can be taken care of by ID. (Pharmacist 2) |
I’m not usually the one making that final call. And if I was, I probably would be doing the same thing because I think there’s a fear of undertreating the patient.” (Resident 1) |
It can be difficult if a team really wants to continue therapy and the ID [infectious diseases] team or the pharmacist wants to deescalate. “No, I want to keep them on this because I’m more comfortable with it. I want to just cover everything ”...Well, sometimes you need to phone a friend that has a little more power than you have, and that’s the ID attending that’s responsible for the stewardship team. (Pharmacist 2) |
It seems based on hearsay, sometimes practice changes...Some physicians have their own preference... so there’s some non-evidence-based thoughts in practice. Whether the physician is trying to do that because they had a patient that failed [treatment] or sometimes, they try to avoid drugs that require levels because they’re more labor-intensive. (Pharmacist 3) |
Some attendings that I worked with were way more comfortable with their antibiotic management and others were like just call ID. So, again, it’s not really up to us so much as the higher powers. (Resident 1) |
I should probably give more thought about what I’m using. Unfortunately, I don’t have any more time so the reflection would come later after rounding. If the attending, you know, admonished me for not thinking it through. (Resident 1) |
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Overtreatment |
People lean very heavily towards treating the patient first because there’s a fear of undertreating the patient. (Resident 1) |
If you’re on a border between adjusting an [antibiotic] dose or leaning higher, you want to go a little bit on the high side because we have to make sure we eradicate the infection rather than worry about possible accumulation of an antibiotic that has lower risk for causing toxicity anyway. (Pharmacist 2) |
We usually start fairly strong and then de-escalate...kind of the pattern. (Resident 4) |
When there’s an active infection that we don’t know about or when the surgeons are not sure exactly what they’re going to be doing...they’ll want something a little broader. (Resident 1) |
We’re trying to cover for as much as possible, as quickly as possible. Once we find out what they [the bacteria] are sensitive to, then we can narrow it. I’d say upon first presentation of infectivity or them being sick, it [stewardship] is not as important. Eventually we will try to be antimicrobial stewards once we get a better idea of what we’re dealing with, infection wise. (Resident 3) |
But giving antibiotics is one of the easiest things that we can do, and it saves a lot of lives. We focus on just empirically treating but then pulling back when you know that it’s not an infection. (Pharmacist 3) |
We err on the side of caution and give them medications that will cover more antibiotics [organisms]...so we can prevent their infection from getting worse. (Resident 3) |
As far as other broad-spectrum antimicrobials it’s kind of like shooting an ant with an elephant gun. It seems sometimes like it’s potentially too broad...but it’s a rather better to be safe than sorry versus thinking whether it’s appropriate or not. (Pharmacist 5) |
With antibiotics in general we tend to use broader agents. It doesn’t take a lot to trigger us to use it which is fair because you get very sick people and if you ignore a potential infection, it can definitely get worse. (Pharmacist 4) |
We don’t have a great explanation [for unnecessary prescriptions]...it’s like checking off a box...it’s like a diagnostic tool in most cases, which is probably inappropriate. (Resident 1) |
The pattern has always been if you have a patient with sepsis and an unknown cause and you put them on broad-spectrum [antibiotics]. Then get blood cultures and narrow after sensitivities have come back and then figure out the stop dates after that. (Resident 5) |
The safest way would be to put them on something broad to cover most things and then figure it out afterwards when you have cultures back. It’s an appropriate way to use antibiotics. (Resident 5) |
You can’t assume what bug a person is growing...So, starting broad, trying to get as many bugs as possible, and then narrowing down to a specific bug. I think that’s kind of the way I think you should do it. (Resident 2) |
In the ICU they could be infected with anything. So unfortunately, it’s our safety blanket to use these antibiotics as soon as our patients give any signs that they are infected, because if we leave their infections untreated, then they could devolve very, very quickly. (Resident 3) |
Instant Gratification |
The ICU patients are so ill that it gives you great satisfaction if you can help the team with the therapeutic decision that impacts someone’s chances of getting better quickly…that’s very rewarding. (Pharmacist 2) |
I don’t know if there’s always such a clear-cut path to being good antibiotic stewards because of that like imperative to treat your patients and make sure that this individual patient, you know, recovers from their infection. It’s easier to think about them than to think about the hypothetical patient in the future with a resistant organism. (Resident 1) |
I found it more satisfying to, like, help a surgical patient along from the perspective of anesthesia so you could see them have immediate benefit to your interventions…we get to deal with a lot of medications and clinical interventions…I like all the interventions. (Resident 3) |
Sometimes their cultures wouldn’t result anything. But then we would keep them on antibiotics for several days because we saw that they were clinically improving...instead of a seven-day course, let’s just make it a three-day course. (Resident 3) |
With anesthesia one thing is...it’s very quick and immediate. And I know in our generation it’s like immediate gratification...I kind of like how there’s a problem and you can quickly fix it and I like that aspect of it. (Resident 2) |
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Rynkiewich, K.; Uttla, K.; Hojat, L. Instant Gratification and Overtreating to Be Safe: Perceptions of U.S. Intensive Care Unit Pharmacists and Residents on Antimicrobial Stewardship. Antibiotics 2022, 11, 1224. https://doi.org/10.3390/antibiotics11091224
Rynkiewich K, Uttla K, Hojat L. Instant Gratification and Overtreating to Be Safe: Perceptions of U.S. Intensive Care Unit Pharmacists and Residents on Antimicrobial Stewardship. Antibiotics. 2022; 11(9):1224. https://doi.org/10.3390/antibiotics11091224
Chicago/Turabian StyleRynkiewich, Katharina, Kruthika Uttla, and Leila Hojat. 2022. "Instant Gratification and Overtreating to Be Safe: Perceptions of U.S. Intensive Care Unit Pharmacists and Residents on Antimicrobial Stewardship" Antibiotics 11, no. 9: 1224. https://doi.org/10.3390/antibiotics11091224
APA StyleRynkiewich, K., Uttla, K., & Hojat, L. (2022). Instant Gratification and Overtreating to Be Safe: Perceptions of U.S. Intensive Care Unit Pharmacists and Residents on Antimicrobial Stewardship. Antibiotics, 11(9), 1224. https://doi.org/10.3390/antibiotics11091224