Emergent Time and Time Travel in Quantum Physics
Abstract
:1. Introduction
Outline
2. The Page–Wootters Formalism
Time Travel in the Page–Wootters Formalism
3. POVMs, the Harmonic Oscillator, and Time
3.1. Time and Phase Operators for the Harmonic Oscillator
4. Time Travel in Two Harmonic Oscillators Subject to a Hamiltonian Constraint
4.1. Important Note on the Difference to Quantum Cosmology
4.2. A Boring Model of Time Travel
- 1.
- The simplest possibility is a diagonal . We will demonstrate that this leads, at least according to the PW formalism, to the simplest time evolution possible. We will demonstrate how this time evolution can be interpreted as a particularly boring case of the Novikov self-consistency conjecture.
- 2.
- We derive a quite general statement about when it is non-diagonal. Concretely, introducing two sparse matrices and a diagonal matrix D, it will take the following form:
- 3.
- A general identity for the conditional probabilities (6) in our toy model is derived.
- 4.
- Using the previous two steps, we will prove that the results of the first step carry over to non-diagonal , too.
5. Interpretation, Discussion, and Outlook
- More and different subsystems; more in the sense of more harmonic oscillators, different in terms of adding various combinations of other systems. Also, ancillary systems could be used. For example, in the context of time travel, one can ask the following question: Can ancillary or memory systems allow for (more or less self-consistent) time travel to be limited to just a fixed, finite number of round trips as opposed to the infinite traversability of the GR CTCs?
- In a closely related step, one would introduce various interactions among the subsystems. These will greatly change the outcome of our above analysis.
- Ultimately, the combination of these two model-building drives can try to investigate entropic arguments in the context of time travel. If self-consistent time travel in quantum systems with an emergent notion of time is possible, are such configurations potentially favored or disfavoured on thermodynamic grounds? In particular, entropy concepts geared toward constrained or fixed energy systems, like ‘observational entropy’ [94,95,96], promise access to new arguments for or against time travel without having to rely on mixing different concepts of time (GR’s dynamic time vs. thermodynamic time vs. parameter time vs. …) or on any kind of explicit notion of time; the entropic arguments in such systems would similarly be based on emergent notions, just as the notion of time itself is.
- Similarly, this exercise should be able to further clarify the difference between a periodic clock time and time travel as such. Obviously, some kind of synchronicity between the residual system and the clock system has to hold for the latter. Yet the above-mentioned research directions would allow one to turn concepts like self-consistency into less of a binary. After all, if time is emergent, its absence might be ill-suited for human survival but still allow a valid physical system that describes something ‘close’ to a quantum system with self-consistent, observable time travel. In a sense, this would be a first step toward rigorously testing Hawking’s chronology protection.
- Much of the current research that led to a reimagining of the PW formalism as a gauge fixed picture aims to ask what happens when one changes frames, i.e., clocks. Once the model systems for time travel are complex enough (and, thus, more complex than our Equation (20)), a natural question is: What happens to time travel in such quantum reference frame transformations? And, linking to the previous point, does this differ from the situation for merely periodic clocks?
- Lastly, the previous two points hint at the possibility of making time travel more of a local, emergent notion in a large system. This is, for one, an explicit way to study time travel classically as a CTC in a space–time manifold; see, for example, [59,81]. For another, this is similarly done in quantum physics, ranging from the rigorously and explicitly local [46,97] to the more imprecise and only implicitly local [45,98]. Yet, so far, these approaches all had to rely on an ad hoc introduction of ‘background’ time.
Author Contributions
Funding
Data Availability Statement
Acknowledgments
Conflicts of Interest
Abbreviations
CTC | closed time-like curves |
GR | general relativity |
POVM | positive operator-valued measure |
PVM | projection-valued measure |
PW | Page–Wootters |
WDW | Wheeler–DeWitt |
Appendix A. Formal Definition of POVMs
- (i)
- for all sets , (‘positivity’),
- (ii)
- for disjoint , (‘additivity’),
- (iii)
- for all sequences of sets , such that , all operators have (the zero operator) as the greatest lower bound.
Appendix B. Time Operators for a Harmonic Oscillator
Appendix C. Detailed Construction of Depicted Wave Packets
1 | With a bit of hindsight, Schrödinger already anticipated this in his footnote on page 245 of [13] [here, in our translation, and keeping the somewhat convoluted grammar of the original]: “An interesting application of this is the following: if one knows of a system composed of several, coupled subsystems only the total energy, then it is impossible to know more about the distribution of energy across the subsystems than the statistical, time-independent data, which already follows from the knowledge of the total energy. Except for the case that individual subsystems are in truth fully decoupled, energetically isolated from the others”. |
2 | One would also have to brush aside that standard thermodynamics has to artificially graft time onto its formalism in the first place, leading to the very name ‘thermodynamics’ being rather unintuitive compared to other occurrences of ‘dynamics’ in physical terminology [55]. |
3 | Such overcomplete states find ample application in, for example, the context of coherent states [23]. |
4 | Deviating from the commensurability condition even a little would lead to non-normalizable wave functions. In the context of quantum cosmology, such wave functions can be encountered, such as the no-boundary proposal [77] (p. 282). For the sake of our (not necessarily gravitational) toy model, we believe that this would add another layer of interpretational problems best left for a separate study. |
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